Croydon Skatepark consultation Wednesday

sweet ill be hopefully be there
itll be awesome if convics designing it

gonna have to check this out n they better not fuck it up with some huge bowl theres enough of them around

agreed^

Don't be bummed on a big bowl. At least it is skateable. I agree that a plaza would be better seeing as there is ringwood, box hill and knox close by.

I am more bummed on the idea that skateparks need a basketball hoop, dance area and modeling catwalk. If they are wanting to make skateparks more appealing for young people that don't use them to roll why don't they make the places more event friendly or better still provide additional funding for events.

Extreme seat areas, dance off spaces and ledges to grass like caroline springs and parts of geelong are becoming the facepalm of Australian park design.

Do they have a basketball hoop in the middle of tennis courts when they build those or catwalks partway down the footy field for the once a year failed attempt at an event for their use?

Good skateparks get used and engage young people. Lurk spaces don't

public meth dispenser.

Did anyone go yesterday?

One of my colleagues did. There was mention of the "success" of the modeling catwalk of Geelong

put a basketball ring in.
ive lived in croydon most of my life and there wasn't a ring to play at josh.
They need a shelter plus fix the drink tap

Croyden had a drink tap!?

Croydon and their fuckin drink tap.

THe council and designers are seeking feedback on the draft concept designs for Croydon. Check out the facebook page below and have your say.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Croydon-Skatepark-and-Youth-Space/175951505797041

hHe council and designers are seeking feedback on the draft concept designs for Croydon. Check out the facebook page below and have your say.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Croydon-Skatepark-and-Youth-Space/175951505797041

Basketball court is ok. At least it will be used.
As for the rest of it, I'm glad people are starting to realise what a fucking joke Convic designers are and this is a perfect example.
Exactly Joshua - Good skateparks engage the youth, not stupid blocks that you can't skate.....not to mention the money wasted. If councils really want youth space crap it's pretty easy to design that stuff into a skateable plaza.

Circled areas are wasted money/space.

The big question is what is trying to be achieved? Are these spaces a place for bored youth to lurk that don't participate? The functionality of the skatepark is compromised to accommodate people that don't use skate parks.

If there is no additional funding for programs or events for the people to come that are not interested in using the space what does the council expect the lurkers to do? If there is additional funding what programs for non participants would be held there and how does that space accommodate it?

It is an expensive use of empty space that from my youth work experience will end up tagged and looking crap. What is the point? What is to be achieved?

There is a fun looking mini, 4 ledges and 2 rails. $700k I am guessing? Is that value for the skateboard community? Is the other intended purposes (whatever they are) actually going to happen?

Looks pretty to non skaters. Will turn into a underutilized haggard place in no time.

Start building inspiring skateparks. I know the youth space thing is an easy upsell to the councils but they are a crappy way to sell skateparks to non skaters that don't work in the real world.

I had a few ideas about what would make skateparks better for skaters and people that go to those places that don't participate. Couple of ideas

-An inbuilt PA system that was volume limited and bluetooth connected for audio so there is no vandalism/maintenance of plugs. This PA system could have a key with council that unlocks a control box that unlimited the volume and unlocks plugs for rca's, mic ect at event times

-WIFI hotspot for people to hang out and use for leisure/study

-LIGHTS! If there are safety/lurker issues have them come on 3 nights a week so everyone goes down those three nights. Safety in numbers and skaters are the best to maintain order at their parks more often than not.

Just a few ideas. I don't want to be negative without contributing something constructive. Those ideas would cost less than one of the circled dead space areas.

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i like that there isnt a bowl like iv said before theres enough of them around and also the idea of being able to just go around in a sort of triangle loop so you can just go around doing lines rather than just up and back (eg ringwood park) but still need more local skater input

Doyle, what else do you think is needed?
I've been annoying the users on the facebook page and they've asked me for some ideas and things to add from a locals angle.
Everyone does seem pretty annoyed at the design but yeah triangle layout looks pretty sick and unique.

The triangle layout is a good idea. What happens at each point though? Why not have some kind of corner obstacle in there? Something like the pic? A little more fun than a flat area to do a flatground carve?

Again an uninspired backwards step for Australian skatepark design. More interested in architecture props and an easy sell to non skaters.

Makes you wonder why you bother! I reckon Doyle and Yolanda get all the reasoned, experienced opinions you can from the locals. Take pictures and drawings and submit them.

yolanda i have been talking to them on facebook as well and they seem to be down for some little adjustments that i have said
and i suggested a curved ledge around the corners like josh said aswell but yeah i dont really mind the design it could work out alright

"More interested in architecture props and an easy sell to non skaters."

That just about sums it up. It also helps alot if you have some kind of proper skateboard association, as is the case in Canberra. Councils pay alot more attention to groups like that and it probably helps to get past all the fancy bullshit and get value for money.
It's been suggested before that they push the youth space shit to get more money for skateparks. More like just more money and lame design awards for themselves and cool photos for future presentations.

Ledge corners idea is real good.
Hopefully goes through.
A boob on another corner?

Something as simple as a boob could totally change the flow and lines. Make a boring nothing space a feature that gives speed, creativity and a novice or a pro can have fun with it.

Yolanda/Doyle you are a locals. You will probably spend more time there than the designers, parents or once a month youth worker visit. You have the right to voice what you want. You need to get a hold of your mates, sit down with them and get photos and drawings you all agree on and submit them as a group. Take ownership and give clear direction to what you want. This park could be one of the best things to happen to the scene in your hood or just a flop.

man i like the idea of a boob on the other corner that would be awesome. and josh i have been talking and making comments on that facebook page and they seem willing to take on some of my ideas so hopefully it turns out ok