RE: Seek Skate Co

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Shang Tsung confirmed, continue hating.

we are skateboarders from all around the country saying your'e doing it all wrong!, please understand your little thing you have going on is going no where quick and no real skateboarders will ever recognise it as a brand.

go sell the rest of your product at the bottom of the sea.

i feel sorry for your son, unless he is at the age to know better ofcourse.

the dad
http://www.facebook.com/tramonatanas

the son
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=738598141

seek skate co facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/Seekskateco

"then, oh shit, clouds!! let's call off the event a few times before eventually running it and in the process vilifying and abusing one of the VOLUNTEERS that helped make the whole thing possible"

Yeah I know a few people that helped out at the event and they all think he's an ungrateful dick. My mate's girlfriend volunteered but went home sick and got abusive texts from the owner telling her to "toughen up".

Are we hating on their facebook page?

Hey mark Brimson do you have any of these decks I can buy? I'm on the sunny coast but come to brissy all the time.

..I don't support what Seek are doing, but I'd be careful about what is said against them (the hate), whether it be on this forum or facebook.... don't get yourselves into a situation where you may face legal action. 2cents.

oh, and wear a seatbelt, don't do drugs and be kind to animals.

my opinions.

to skateboarders:

1. people in the newcastle skate scene are threatened by the hot competition provided by seek skate co, so they are trying to trash its name. this makes it sound to me like seek is not a joke, but actually a legitimate threat, and they are taking seek seriously. if seek was really a joke, they wouldn't need to worry about trashing its name. competition is good for the market. maybe the current companies need to become more competitive by being better.

2. i don't know the people posting in this thread. some of them seem to be legit involved with the skate scene. but many of the posts look like they are made by kids who are just bandwagon haters. i think this is lame and kids need to stop being such brown nosers. to the kid who suggested hate on his facebook page, that's a pretty pathetic proposition.

to seek:

1. seek skate company does give off a vibe of ignorance about skateboarding, the skate scene and its culture. the owner would do well to pull his head in a bit, respect this, and get on board with local skateboarders and the skate community rather than antagonizing them.

2. if the owner takes said advice, seek may become a full blown legit company. if not, seek will probably still take a share of the market, because there are still heaps of kids coming into skateboarding from the outer who don't have respect for the culture and roots of skateboarding, and will take a board if its cheaper. if seek's products are good quality and cheaper than the rest, they may really take a decent share of the market, because the stories of nike and converse show how willing skateboarders are to sell out. then again, the nike brand is recognised outside the skate community as cool.

in short, i am ashamed of the way skateboarders have reacted to this. forgive me for taking the moral high ground and being all self righteous, but...

i see kids being way to quick to parrot the opinions of the people of influence. which is human nature, but think about what you're hating on, instead of blindly taking things out of the horses mouth.

i see people of influence inciting kids who look up to them to hate on seek in order to ruin the company, and this not disinterestedly, because there would have to be conflicts of interest, personal interests involved in at least some of the cases.

these are my opinions.
hopefully they add something to the discussion.

to the kid who suggested hate on his facebook page, that's a pretty pathetic proposition.

I merely posted ways you can contact these people nobody has even said lets hate on them and i'm guessing your not from newcastle. compared to right now skateboarding has been rather shit in newcastle from a business perspective and then all of a sudden when all the new parks get built and all these new kids are starting to skate you get this mob selling boards for $20 in shopping malls and badmouthing the real shops that are actually run by skaters and have been around for years.

i guess that depends what your idea of a "skate scene" is then. I grew up in newcastle and the local shops had stuff going on pretty regularly and it was sick because it was all influenced by skaters.

Seek just seems to be a cool dad trying to cash in on a new skatepark being built, but while doing so it is doing it all completely the wrong way by by-passing the shops which have stood by skateboarding for years.

As everyone knows you can go buy cheap as fuck shit off the internet from china for a few bucks a board. But instead as skateboarders we support the brands and shops we like that get us psyched.

The guys that run skate shops could have gone and done the same thing, buy whatever shit they can get for a cheap price and flog it off in random shopping centers to people that dont really understand what they are buying besides "its cheap but top quality with unique designs" Unique to who exactly? powell skateboards have been alive for almost half a century so whats something you've dont thats unique that they havent done in that time?
The dudes at the skateshops stand by skateboarding and in this case thats what matters.

Imagine if a cool dad popped up in every city around australia doing this shit? it would be fucking horrible.

Atleast we know he will get over it soon and venture into some "cool new action sport"
The bad part about the "action sports" genre is everyone thinks they are entitled to cash in/participate in it with out gaining any form of respect for what they are doing.
Respect goes along way and they show clearly no respect to local skate scene or the international skate scene (using a brand name that was used 10+years ago)

Just had a look through their website and it pretty much outllines "cool dad trying to cash in"
http://www.seekskateco.com/pages/about-us
"Philip had been in the exporting business since 1996 and for the last 5 years had been searching for a product worth importing into the Australian market place"
he must of been oblivious to the fact skateboards have been imported to the country since the 70's.

Well said Sylva...

even the product reviews are whack
http://www.seekskateco.com/collections/bearings/products/abec-9
"Our SEEK Abec 9’s are designed to be the best bearing on the market at this price point. What abec 9’s are not is an abec 7 bearing with just a different finish. Abec 9’s are a better quality bearing, using higher quality steel races, better quality and grade balls, and a superior surface finish. This means that the bearing is as fast as an abec 7 but quieter, smoother, and longer lasting."
How did you come up with that shit?

So what exactly are you buying? dont you think if it was that cheap to get "the best bearing on the market" everyone would be doing it?

A pack of REDS bearings would be way better and cheaper and an all round better product while you dont have to deal with someone that is clueless to skating telling you that his products are the best in the world.


I hope this shit fades out soon. Sucks seeing people ruin it for everyone else

also who did the "world class top quality" bearing rating?
seems like mr cool dad has bought a blank set of abec 7 bearings and has come up with the idea to label it "abec 9" but in his product overview admit they are just abec 7 bearings

In my opinion the bar to start a skateboard company is set way too low. I hope people start to realise that getting a font printed on several hundred boards is not a 'skate company'.

You get so many of these come and go every year and it's sad to see the effect it has on what I would consider 'real companies'. There are quite a few really good australian skateboard companies but it seems they only barely break even and can't really afford to support their riders in the way they would like to.

It's sad that all of the poorly thought out brands with an obvious limited lifespan simply over saturate the market.

I'm not a fan of shops putting their logos on blank either.

good words Sylva. and thank you for bringing to light their amazing bearings. i love nothing more than LOLing at companies that flaunt the ABEC rating like it has anything to do with skateboarding.

Hey Rob Cali, skate brands have to start somewhere, and if not by getting boards printed, then where???!!?

Do you feel the same about restaurants, markets and stores? That the small ones trying to have a go are affecting the 'real' (established) companies?
Not trying to stick up for seek, but it seems you're having a go at the small guy in general.

I don't believe the poorly thought out brands effect established/respected companies at all. Skateboarders can spot a fraud mile away & will not support such goods, most well established companies form a cult like following & will justify spending the extra dollar to represent the brand.

It’s easy to get started but to keep the momentum going is the key, this is where the kook companies die out & the companies that represent and live skateboarding 100% stay alive for another season.

@issue_1 skateboards aren't food

I'm not trying to have a go at the small guy although I can see how it may appear so. You are right, everybody starts somewhere.

I have no problem with start ups who do things with a bit of creative thought, company identity, graphic indivuality, team etc etc. Where I have a problem is the start ups who just get a font printed on a board. The sole purpose being to access cheap boards, rather than to actually 'build a brand'.

"I grew up in newcastle and the local shops had stuff going on pretty regularly and it was sick because it was all influenced by skaters."

Just to be the devils advocate here, Owen from Newcastle skate doesn't skate and he also owns a fishing tackle shop. And isn't the owner of Hunter Valley Skate just another 'cool dad' of a skater? Not to mention don't some of these shops also sell scooters? Business is Business. I'm not hating on these shops or anything and have mad props for their efforts but it seems to me there is a double standard going on here. So is the main issue that this guy is importing wood cheaper than the rest? I think there is a place for cheap chinese wood, just like there is place for shitter grade bearings, shitter wheels, shitter televisions, shitter cars, shitter shitters etc.. The kids with the cash will deck themselves out in the latest pro model by baker while the other kids will be able to get their first fresh deck in years instead of skating their brothers warn tail, water logged, delaminated hand me down boards. Kids with shit boards are still learning to skate, and they will eventually take more pride in their gear and get the 'legit' merchandise when they can actually afford it won't they?

Just sayin sayin..

I always get a laugh at how these guys think they're the first to have come up with "such a great idea".

Unfortunately we have to wait out until they realise the big $$$ they dreamed of just aren't there and finally give up on it, till the next genius comes along anyway.

fuck you seek ya cunt

"Why pay retail when you can buy wholesale? No retail outlet can match us on price and quality."

Probably to support Skateboarding (Local & International) and Skateboarders? Just a thought...

1. A personal note:

I have been around skateboarding since the mid 80s, and although some would say I am more a wanna be or hanger on when it comes to the skate industry, I think I have learned and understood a few things in that time.

Maybe I am just old, or have more dollars than sense as the saying goes, but I like to buy a wide range of branded products from companies that I enjoy on many levels, mainly because they are very good quality products and hold up to begin with, but the least of which is to see the skaters (pro and am) they have on their companies ripping in dvds or online vids, doing demos, tours, posters, ads, interviews and the list goes on.

When it comes to the question of "Do I want to support something rad, or would I like to do my own board (or clothing or whatever) company?" I would prefer to buy those branded products because I think I really would be kooking it if I was just another person trying to do their own small brand for the sake of doing it. Purely my opinion, as this is how a lot of rad companies, Aussie and US started over the years.

The brands which are on my "LIKE LIST" are irrelevant right here, but sufice to say in this thread, the brand in question would NOT be on any list of products I would buy or want to have to give out at comps, or pass on to friends at whatever price I see fit.


2. To another friendly fellow (of which there is always someone somewhere):

Oudafa Job

09:09 08/Aug/12
Hey mark Brimson do you have any of these decks I can buy? I'm on the sunny coast but come to brissy all the time.


I think the info above would be enough for you, whether sincere or more likely taking the piss, but to give one back, being on the Sunshine Coast, I would imagine there would be another brand you would not ever see from me being supplied on retail and wholesale levels in the local area, of which you could, or should purchase instead.

The Trinity Dist guys are really good dudes after all, regardless of their scooter interests, as they do support skateboarding and help the local industry up there, from what I have heard.

I know it probably sounds like I am taking a dig at them, but I am actually not, and wish them and anyone else all the best with whatever business they want to carry on.

Please have a care for the establishment of the local skate shop, who are supporting the local scene and doing what they can for it.

I bought a pro board from both the Newy Skate shops when I was down there, along with a couple of other things, and they seem to me to be doing the right things in that area.

Buying a blank (or equivalent from a company like this thread) from anywhere just puts cash in the pocket of the individual which does nothing for the long term of the skate industry and scene.

Think on this:

No local skate shop = no local demos, tours, comps, less interest for Council to update existing facilities so at the end of the day, you can skate there, but there would not be a shop to get product from and no new park to skate in your area either.

Lucky you!!


Sorry for having another go at pouring out my mind through the keyboard for too long once again.