Your both wrong the played in open G
Guitar Thread
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El Dictator19 Mar 2010no he didnt,thats hick tuning
Um i wasn't serious. PS Open G is sick
bill fraser19 Mar 2010long shot, anyone got a russian big muff for sale.
PIG..19 Mar 2010Mr Magpie, Watch Over You by Alter Bridge is a fun song to play in open G.
El Dictator, sorry mate, no dice.
E flat standard tuning, D standard Tuning, E# Standard Tuning.
All the same, relative to E standard.
By your reasoning, E standard tuning would be all strings up half a step and the Low string tuned to E.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E%E2%99%AD_tuning
Perhaps you should update the Wikipedia document though?
Have a top weekend everyone!
El Dictator, sorry mate, no dice.
E flat standard tuning, D standard Tuning, E# Standard Tuning.
All the same, relative to E standard.
By your reasoning, E standard tuning would be all strings up half a step and the Low string tuned to E.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E%E2%99%AD_tuning
Perhaps you should update the Wikipedia document though?
Have a top weekend everyone!
El Dictator19 Mar 2010nope,it even says on your wiki link that im right, and no,tuning every string up half a string wouldnt be right,who said anythign about that?
invisi20 Mar 2010some one buy my Boss DS-1 Distortion
or my Beringher UC100 Chorus Pedal
or my Ibanez LM7 L.A. Metal
or my Daphon E20DL Delay
or my Beringher UC100 Chorus Pedal
or my Ibanez LM7 L.A. Metal
or my Daphon E20DL Delay
Ginger Beer21 Mar 2010buying one of these tomorrow. so stoked!
http://www.squierguitars.com/products/search.php?partno=0303000503
http://www.squierguitars.com/products/search.php?partno=0303000503
invisi21 Mar 2010fuck yeah man looks so sick.
make a vid or a recording so we can hear?
make a vid or a recording so we can hear?
Ginger Beer21 Mar 2010i would but i dont have a decent video camera oor something to record with. I'll see what i can conjure up though.
PIG..22 Mar 2010"Eb (E Flat) Tuning or D# Tuning is a kind of guitar tuning. It is based on standard guitar tuning, except that all of the strings are lowered by a half-step. The result looks like this: Eb-Ab-Db-Gb-Bb-Eb'. The guitar is usually played identically to standard tuning, resulting in a heavier tone without requiring the guitarist to learn different chords or fingering."
You will also note that the page lists Nirvana as a band who used this tuning.
Not interested in picking fights, but you are very much wrong.
You will also note that the page lists Nirvana as a band who used this tuning.
Not interested in picking fights, but you are very much wrong.
PIG..22 Mar 2010Oh and shutdown, any clown could sit down and learn a solo (not saying that I could play that solo any time soon) But writing a good solo is a completely different story.
Besides, it was a pretty sloppy cover.
Marty Friedman is a great guitarist and I can't wait for the clinic!
Anyone else going?
Besides, it was a pretty sloppy cover.
Marty Friedman is a great guitarist and I can't wait for the clinic!
Anyone else going?
megamanX22 Mar 2010im assuming theres one at the brissie allans music? if so i recon' i might
El Dictator22 Mar 201015:34 22/Mar
"Eb (E Flat) Tuning or D# Tuning is a kind of guitar tuning. It is based on standard guitar tuning, except that all of the strings are lowered by a half-step. The result looks like this: Eb-Ab-Db-Gb-Bb-Eb'. The guitar is usually played identically to standard tuning, resulting in a heavier tone without requiring the guitarist to learn different chords or fingering."
You will also note that the page lists Nirvana as a band who used this tuning.
Not interested in picking fights, but you are very much wrong.
then why are you doing it? you just made up a whole paragraph of lies for god knows what reason
Give it a rest
DeathMoth22 Mar 2010el dictator is trolling this shit
pig i've gotta throw a spanner in your works. "any clown could sit down and learn a solo (not saying that I could play that solo any time soon) But writing a good solo is a completely different story."
and any clown can write a solo too. the real guns are guys who just go to town on their solos, all improv. they might revisit certain phrases regularly, but that's what people begin to associate with that as "their" sound.
while i totally won't diss players who do write their solos, if they are in fact, decent leads, but i respect the improv soloist much more purely for the fact that its a one off, never again solo.. weren't there?? oh you missed it.
of course this sort of thing is only relative in blues, jazz and related genres.... we all know metal shredders are just parrots reciting pre-programmed finger movements with no brain activity involved...
don't get me wrong i love metal. ah shit i'm boozed up
pig i've gotta throw a spanner in your works. "any clown could sit down and learn a solo (not saying that I could play that solo any time soon) But writing a good solo is a completely different story."
and any clown can write a solo too. the real guns are guys who just go to town on their solos, all improv. they might revisit certain phrases regularly, but that's what people begin to associate with that as "their" sound.
while i totally won't diss players who do write their solos, if they are in fact, decent leads, but i respect the improv soloist much more purely for the fact that its a one off, never again solo.. weren't there?? oh you missed it.
of course this sort of thing is only relative in blues, jazz and related genres.... we all know metal shredders are just parrots reciting pre-programmed finger movements with no brain activity involved...
don't get me wrong i love metal. ah shit i'm boozed up
PIG..22 Mar 2010Gotta disagree with a point there.
Sure any clown can write a solo, but writing a good/great solo is a completely different story. There's a massive difference between a good solo and a great solo.
Completely agree with the point that the Improvisational musicians are amazing and a joy to watch. Say for example, I love watching live videos of Gary Moore playing "I Live you more than you'll ever know) and improvising the solo different ways each time. But on the same token, I LOVE watching alter bridge video's with Mark Tremonti playing solo's basically note for note from the album. I'd frankly be a little disappointed if I went to a show and he played a solo differently.
Mark Tremonti is a phenomenal guitarist and can more than likely improvise solos (not that I'm suggesting that he can to the level of Maestro's like Di Meola) But I believe that sometimes the written solo is far more suited.
It's something we could argue for days over and not get anywhere, so lets just agree that guitar is the real winner.
Shutdown, quit being lazy and come to the Clinic! Probably have a few bevvies in the city before the clinic too.
Sure any clown can write a solo, but writing a good/great solo is a completely different story. There's a massive difference between a good solo and a great solo.
Completely agree with the point that the Improvisational musicians are amazing and a joy to watch. Say for example, I love watching live videos of Gary Moore playing "I Live you more than you'll ever know) and improvising the solo different ways each time. But on the same token, I LOVE watching alter bridge video's with Mark Tremonti playing solo's basically note for note from the album. I'd frankly be a little disappointed if I went to a show and he played a solo differently.
Mark Tremonti is a phenomenal guitarist and can more than likely improvise solos (not that I'm suggesting that he can to the level of Maestro's like Di Meola) But I believe that sometimes the written solo is far more suited.
It's something we could argue for days over and not get anywhere, so lets just agree that guitar is the real winner.
Shutdown, quit being lazy and come to the Clinic! Probably have a few bevvies in the city before the clinic too.
shutdown22 Mar 2010Dont write off the value of solo cloning. I guarantee that 99% of the bits of a marty friedman solo are poached from the guitarists he worshipped when he was learning to play. It's just the way it works.
I respect improv players, and im pretty much always improvising solos when i play in band / live however it can go wrong at times tho thats half the thrill I spose.. It's all about how you can cover up your stray-aways / bad improv decisions. You stick to your safety zones which is why I think improvisation is rather limited at the same time.
BUT.. I also respect people who write solos in advance and believe it makes some of the best fitting solos for music. To me it's much like someone who writes music / songs. Im not going to congratulate Cobain if he made up a new melody for smells like teen spirit every time he sang it, much like I wouldn't be too stoked if slash played a completely new solo for sweet child o mine every time gunners did it live. Both in their own rights are musical genious and shouldn't be fucked with. There is some 'slight' room for variation but to me as the listener it just makes it seem like the guitarist / singer is bored and trying to entertain himself when they change it up.
To me the only way you will come up with a truly inventive / creative solo is to pre-write it. You can force your fingers into patterns they do not want to fall into naturally and you can hand select the notes rather than just burning around in scales / licks.
P.S. Pig, nah not gonna come see Marty, for me its a bit more than seeing a good guitarist gone bad for a bit of a laugh, its about ruining one of my favourite albums of all time (Rust In Peace).. Best left un-touched. I generally do not go to see guitarist clinics anyhow, not sure why, just not the slightest bit interested in watching some 80's shredder with long hair pulling blow-load facials and scratching through his bastardised version of a malmsteen scale-lick whiel we all look on in awe. Just doesn't do it for me.. Drum clinics on the other hand, now THAT im a huge fan of if the right drummer is at play.
I respect improv players, and im pretty much always improvising solos when i play in band / live however it can go wrong at times tho thats half the thrill I spose.. It's all about how you can cover up your stray-aways / bad improv decisions. You stick to your safety zones which is why I think improvisation is rather limited at the same time.
BUT.. I also respect people who write solos in advance and believe it makes some of the best fitting solos for music. To me it's much like someone who writes music / songs. Im not going to congratulate Cobain if he made up a new melody for smells like teen spirit every time he sang it, much like I wouldn't be too stoked if slash played a completely new solo for sweet child o mine every time gunners did it live. Both in their own rights are musical genious and shouldn't be fucked with. There is some 'slight' room for variation but to me as the listener it just makes it seem like the guitarist / singer is bored and trying to entertain himself when they change it up.
To me the only way you will come up with a truly inventive / creative solo is to pre-write it. You can force your fingers into patterns they do not want to fall into naturally and you can hand select the notes rather than just burning around in scales / licks.
P.S. Pig, nah not gonna come see Marty, for me its a bit more than seeing a good guitarist gone bad for a bit of a laugh, its about ruining one of my favourite albums of all time (Rust In Peace).. Best left un-touched. I generally do not go to see guitarist clinics anyhow, not sure why, just not the slightest bit interested in watching some 80's shredder with long hair pulling blow-load facials and scratching through his bastardised version of a malmsteen scale-lick whiel we all look on in awe. Just doesn't do it for me.. Drum clinics on the other hand, now THAT im a huge fan of if the right drummer is at play.
Metal solos suck.
DeathMoth23 Mar 2010my guitar lecturer at uni wrote this in one of our texts. thought it was slightly relevant considering we're kind of verging on talking about shredding solos here
on repetitive practice to achieve shredder status he writes "your ears shut down and stop hearing. at this point it just comes down to muscle programming. i am not saying this happens with everyone but I have witnessed it enough times to mention it. Dangerous stuff, wouldn't you say? Removing your ears from your practice sessions? This is yet another reason the music content of many fast players leaves a lot to be desired"
he also talks about how if your slower playing is melodic and shows good time that your fast playing should be the same...just sped up. he says "if your technique is up to the task of speedy picking and your melodic lines become weak, it probably means you're not actually hearing these lines but are relying on pre-programmed finger patterns. Finger stuff i call it and finger stuff is definitely not good music making"
some food for thought. wise words from a dude called Jim Kelly who is really one of australia's leading guitarists. had a lot of success in the 70's and 80's in the fusion scene, toured the world, studied under Joe Pass...pretty much knows everything there is to know about the guitar. he's been teaching in lismore for quite a while now. used to watch him most weeks play in various jazz acts and the dude totally knows his shit
on repetitive practice to achieve shredder status he writes "your ears shut down and stop hearing. at this point it just comes down to muscle programming. i am not saying this happens with everyone but I have witnessed it enough times to mention it. Dangerous stuff, wouldn't you say? Removing your ears from your practice sessions? This is yet another reason the music content of many fast players leaves a lot to be desired"
he also talks about how if your slower playing is melodic and shows good time that your fast playing should be the same...just sped up. he says "if your technique is up to the task of speedy picking and your melodic lines become weak, it probably means you're not actually hearing these lines but are relying on pre-programmed finger patterns. Finger stuff i call it and finger stuff is definitely not good music making"
some food for thought. wise words from a dude called Jim Kelly who is really one of australia's leading guitarists. had a lot of success in the 70's and 80's in the fusion scene, toured the world, studied under Joe Pass...pretty much knows everything there is to know about the guitar. he's been teaching in lismore for quite a while now. used to watch him most weeks play in various jazz acts and the dude totally knows his shit
shutdown24 Mar 2010i wanna hear ginger beers amp!
dude surely you have a little cam that can record video + audio (little compact stills cam usually can do a fair job).. or even a mobile phone that can do video would be better than nothing..
hell even one of those dodgy 2 dollar microphones plugged into your pc sound card would be good enough..
dude surely you have a little cam that can record video + audio (little compact stills cam usually can do a fair job).. or even a mobile phone that can do video would be better than nothing..
hell even one of those dodgy 2 dollar microphones plugged into your pc sound card would be good enough..
PIG..24 Mar 2010Deathmoth, whilst I agree with alot of what you're saying, I think Jazz (and in particular Jazz Fusion) players are quite often guilty if being the Snobby Rich Private School Kids of the guitar world. Frowning on all who don't wear blazers to school.
Its a bit of a rough generalisation and I agree with shutdown that Improvisational artists will frequently revert back to practised/comfortable progressions/licks.
Each genre and playing style has it's only place in it's own world.
Its a bit of a rough generalisation and I agree with shutdown that Improvisational artists will frequently revert back to practised/comfortable progressions/licks.
Each genre and playing style has it's only place in it's own world.
Alex DeLarge24 Mar 2010best ever
Hearty and Hellish!24 Mar 2010DeathMoth
22:47 23/Mar
my guitar lecturer at uni wrote this in one of our texts. thought it was slightly relevant considering we're kind of verging on talking about shredding solos here
on repetitive practice to achieve shredder status he writes "your ears shut down and stop hearing. at this point it just comes down to muscle programming. i am not saying this happens with everyone but I have witnessed it enough times to mention it. Dangerous stuff, wouldn't you say? Removing your ears from your practice sessions? This is yet another reason the music content of many fast players leaves a lot to be desired"
I'd rather hear someone like Joey Santiago 'lead' guitar playing than a shredder any day of the week.
22:47 23/Mar
my guitar lecturer at uni wrote this in one of our texts. thought it was slightly relevant considering we're kind of verging on talking about shredding solos here
on repetitive practice to achieve shredder status he writes "your ears shut down and stop hearing. at this point it just comes down to muscle programming. i am not saying this happens with everyone but I have witnessed it enough times to mention it. Dangerous stuff, wouldn't you say? Removing your ears from your practice sessions? This is yet another reason the music content of many fast players leaves a lot to be desired"
I'd rather hear someone like Joey Santiago 'lead' guitar playing than a shredder any day of the week.